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I got offer from Micosoft thailand for software testing. being new to the software field, i don't understand the role of software testing. the refer the position as “Software Design Engineer in Test”. Pls share your opinion on this job profile. want to know if i will get to do coding?
Thanks in advance

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By: shyyonk
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on 13/02/12 16:41 #383080 toggle
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I used to work at Microsoft Thailand as a software test engineer in 2006-2007. I was testing Thai language in help module of Windows Vista at that time. The works were all about manual tests and automated tests. I needed to follow the guidelines and used many tools to test the module. I also wrote some small test tools to be used specifically for my test case. So I guess you might do both manual + automated test + some coding.

By: kraken
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on 13/02/12 17:22 #383101 Reply to:383080 toggle
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Thank you very much for responses. I have few more question:
1> Since i like coding very much, will appreciate if u can tell me what fraction of time u spend on coding? is it above 70% of time?
2> If i feel the job is not suitable for me and resigned after a year, will it difficult to be developer again?

By: PaePae
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on 13/02/12 20:35 #383178 Reply to:383101 toggle
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If you prefer coding, tell the recruiter, maybe the coding position is also available. Coding and QA position requires different skill sets and attitudes, so I think you should raise the issue to discuss with the recruiter.


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By: kraken
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on 14/02/12 9:45 #383380 Reply to:383178 toggle
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well i have already told him that i am much more interested for programmer position. but look like MS thailand dont have developer team and their focus is on sales and support. I have ask them if i will get any chance to work with MS as developer in abroad? they told me i have same chance and procedure as non-MS employee.
Normally i would not consider doing testing but MS name make me bias. at first all i was thinking is that their project in testing will be very challenging and fun like coding. But still wonder if MS's name will boost my resume?

By: PaePae
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on 14/02/12 12:55 #383467 Reply to:383380 toggle
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AFAIK. There is a MS developer team in Thailand, but it directly report to Redmond, not MS Thailand. And also the team and its products are under process of acquisition by another company. So it is understandable that they never mention about the team.

I don't have knowledge about switching between coding and testing position so I am unable to discuss. However, I think if you are really interested in coding positions at MS, you may express your interest to apply for a position at Redmond rather than Bangkok. Even it is the testing position, you still have a much better chance switching to coding positions at Redmond.

Working for outstanding or multinational companies always boost your profile even it does not relate to the position you are applying for. Because it means you have passed the tough recruitment processes and requirements, and it is likely that you have learn about and be familiar with the high standard working processes and multiple cultures environment.


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By: kraken
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on 14/02/12 15:02 #383555 Reply to:383467 toggle
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Thank you very much.... this message is really helping :)

By: PaePae
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on 13/02/12 20:29 #383175 toggle
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ความเห็นจากเพื่อนๆ

คนแรก (SDE @ MS)

ถ้าของ HIS

  • plan phase=>design test case
  • dev phase=>implement automate case, doc
  • stabilized phase=>test->raise bug->test->close

จริงๆควรแนะนำว่าไม่ต้องคิดมาก คำว่า MS ในเรซูเม่ ทำให้ขายตัวเองง่ายขึ้นในอนาคต 140%

คนสอง (สายเทสเตอร์ ไม่ได้ทำ MS)

แต่ งาน Tester มันกว้างนะ มันมีตั้งแต่ Test หาบั๊ก จนกระทั่ง Coding Automate test script เลย ซึ่งเราทำมาหมดละ แต่ส่วนตัว ชอบพวก Automate มากกว่า เพราะนอกจากจะต้องเข้าใจ Manual Test แล้ว ยังได้ฝึก logic ในการคิดอีก บางทีก็เขียนพวก Script เล็กๆ มา Test อีกที เช่น ถ้าหากต้อง Test พวก Library หรือพวก API นะ ...... ถ้า Tester ไมมี skill dev จะลำบากมาก

อย่างที่เก่าที่เราทำ เราหลักๆ เน้นเทสพวก API เลย เพราะ Tester ในบริษัทเก่าเรา ( หลังจากรอยเตอร์ ) ไม่ได้ skill dev กันเท่าไหร่ เพราะงั้น สรุป ถ้าเป็น Tester คือ Tester แบบไหน

ส่วนตัวเราคิดว่า ตอนนี้อาชีพ Tester มาแรงนะ และ ถ้าใช้ Automate test tool ได้เทพๆ หางานไม่ยากเลย เพราะ หลายองค์กร พยายามเอาพวก Agile มาใช้ และ Agile framework มันรวมถึง ไอ้ Automate testด้วย


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By: kraken
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on 14/02/12 9:47 #383382 Reply to:383175 toggle
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thank you for info.